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talking across the genders
Obstacles and Good Practice
From Deborah Tannen's "You Just Don't Understand"
OBSTACLE PRACTICE
1 Directness/Indirectness Take into account both persons' feelings, but make sure you get your point across
2 there can be a confusion of intimacy and Independence Remember that we are supposed to make decisions as a team
3 A GUY thinks a girl likes him when she is just being nice there are lots of nice girls - girls are just nice - it doesn't necessarily  "mean" something
4 a woman uses a ordinary problem situation to open discussion about past problem that were not discussed.  P 174 the woman needs to speak about what is bothering her at the time.  If she feels unheard she can try writing it down in a journal or a letter.  The male could be more sensitive to the physical traits indicating a problem so that he can ask her if she want to talk about "something."
5 many women not only feel comfortable seeking help, but feel honor-bound to seek it, accept it and display gratitude in exchange.  Many men feel honor-found to fulfill the request for help whether or not it is convenient for them to do so I find myself doing that all the time (and not asking for help) but I am leaning to ask for assistance and appreciate it.
6 because telling secrets is an essential part of friendship for most women, they may find themselves in trouble when they have no secrets to tell When a woman really has no secret to tell she should say that she does not have one rather than pretend she does and will not tell it or fabricate a secret to feel part of the group
7 Chivalry don't do anything special for the opposite sex that you wouldn't do for the same sex
8 Confronting a person out of context Strop and realize there is a proper moment - time and place - to address certain issues
9 girls manage not to say they disagree.  say no.
10 Gossip is bad but analysis is good stop when it gets to be rumors or constructions
11 GUYS don't like to talk so much on the phone next time he's quiet on the phone, let him.  He may need time to unravel.
12 he and his boyfriends might tease you That's how they're showing they like you.
13 he cuts me off mid-sentence remember he's a high-involvement speaker and he doesn't mind overlap.  Tell him how you feel but tell him you know he's just involved.
14 he has not 'talked" to you in quite a while … what do you do Relax!  He feels comfortable in silence with you.  Some would argue that is the highest form of intimacy.
15 He's always busy with work and never spends quality time with you … does he not love you anymore? No  That's not what it means.  Men are born naturally competitive and goal oriented.  They think in terms of hierarchy and accomplishment.  It has nothing to do with how he feels about you.
16 I am independent; I don't like asking for help I will start asking him to help out as needed.
17 I feel like he's not listening.  His eyes wander and he won't look at me during conversations.  He doesn't care? this is just how he converses.  Try to understand it and maybe even adopt it to better get your point across
18 I know how you feel appreciate the fact that the person telling you that is there to support you and give comfort
19 IF I am verbally attacked and am so shocked I cannot respond … … interrupt and kindly ask if the argument can be postponed until my head clears
20 if women are often frustrated because men do not respond to their troubles by offering matching troubles, men are often frustrated because women do Male perspective:  try to be more forthcoming about daily events (e.g., work trouble, traffic on the way home … etc.) Female perspective:  try to accept that her partner is listening to her frustrations and may not have a problem to share, but still cares about her feelings.
21 I'll fix it if it kills me Accept when you do not know something; read "How To Idiot's" Guide; call someone to fix it and learn.
22 instead of using "soon" or "in a little time soon" be specific.  Estimate a time
23 it is difficult to understand people give each one a full 15 minutes of your undivided time - and you will understand them
24 It is hard for women to be in an authoritative professional position become more firm problem solvers.
25 It was a pleasure to meet you Take it as a compliment
26 Man "has to" open doors for women Women start to be more independent:  you don't always need a man.  
27 many people feel that women make better managers because they are more inclined to consult and involve employees in decision making (181) I believe it boils down to the characteristics of being a good manager, not the gender.  This statement tends to be a bit sexist.
28 Men always think women want to control and change them.  Marriage is the final step to fully take control Men don't like too many details because they think women want to control them.  Don't probe.
29 Men approach the world as a place where people try to achieve and maintain status.  Women approach the world as a network of connections seeking support and consensus Men can be conscious that these kinds of connections are necessary for a woman and a woman can try to include information of achievements to please the man.
30 men are concerned with status men and women are equal
31 men are providers and don't want to feel like they are being mothered women's nature is to be maternal and thus has to watch out to differentiate between child and spouse
32 Men do not ask for permission be content if he just agrees to let you know
33 men do not like to ask directions men should get GPS or Thomas Guide or Map Quest - or just ask. (this from a man)
34 Men don't like asking for direction I will Map Quest  directions before leaving - Offered by a woman
35 men hate women to give commands or orders try to give suggestions - use the word "let's"
36 men honestly don't know what women want the simplest thing pleases your partner:  find out by communicating
37 men not sharing problems Men need to open with their partners because they can help, be there for you, and get you through better than if you were alone.
38 Men take "let's" as an equivalent to a command Let's is an option.  Make that clear.
39 men talk on message; women focus on metamessage men say what they want; their words have no hidden meaning.
40 men use silence to exercise power over women know they use silence because they don't want to make a scene
41 men value their independence women can deliver their requests as proposals
42 Men, concerned with status, tend to focus more on independence than connection they could try to include women when making decisions in private.
43 more men feel comfortable doing "public speaking" while more women feel comfortable doing "private speaking" While in "Public speaking" mode, the male should draw the female into the conversation, so she feels part of the group
44 negative comments do not motivate women to change positive comments, no matter how small, always work better for us women
45 one in a relationship may seem selfish it may be seen as an attempt to express oneself 
46 Reading is the best way to get information and also to increase their vocabulary I realized this and so not I tread a little everyday - for at least one hour.
47 some women think that men do not think they are special if they don't open the door for them Grow up - unless you are physically impaired, you can open your door.  For men, opening up doors has nothing to do with feelings
48 sometimes people cannot concentrate on listening listen to the not-listening, and stop talking at that time.
49 the Mute Man Understand that women believe small talk is the key component to a relationship:  give time for her
50 to him, talk is for information -  something he needs to know.  This being the case, she might as well tell him what she thinks he needs to know before he starts reading.  But for her talk is for interaction when I do my homework, I usually do not want to be interrupted unless it is important.  My girlfriend constantly talks to me while I am in the middle of something.  Now I understand that it is for interaction and I can try to improve by seeing it that way.
51 we listen to think of all the ways the other person is wrong in an argument think about all the ways you could be wrong
52 we look to our closest relationships as a source of confirmation and reassurance.  When those closest to us respond to events different from the was we do … the ground on which we stand seems to tremble and out footing is suddenly unsure (73) sometimes people are seeking reassurance instead of a solution.  I need to work on that since I always try to give solutions (and in the end frustrate people instead of reassure them)
53 when a boy likes a girl, he will hit/tease her to show his affection girls:  realize that the contact he is making is a "love tap".  Guys:  be gentle.
54 when I ask my husband a question, he takes a long time to answer.  I get frustrated and ask if he's listening.  "yes," he says.  So I get mad because he does not look at me. I will ask a question and wait.  If he doesn't answer I'll say, "So that's what I think; do you have any thoughts about that?"
55 When my b.f. asks me "where or what do you want to do?" I always say, "I don't know; whatever you want to do" and we end up doing something that I don't like and I make my boyfriend feel bad Next time he asks me that I will say what I want to do and if he doesn't want to do that then we can discuss it and do something that we both want to do
56 woman expect decisions to be discussed first and made by consensus establish early in the relationship her expectations about decision making - then set reasonable guidelines to each others comfort levels on how and when to make decisions as a unit or as an individual
57 women and men feel interrupted by each other because of the differences in what they are trying to accomplish with talk P 215 Sit council and use the "talking stick".  Each person is to listen as the other person speaks and not respond until they have taken a moment to think about what they have just heard and really feel like saying.
58 women feel abused when their partner teases them it's not personal:  play the game and you'll reap the benefits
59 Women gossip and men just talk Men:  don't fool yourself; You gossip too.
60 Women often feel rejected by their partner when he doesn't want to hold their hand in public Women know that holding hands for men does not create and emotional connection.  
61 women use language to show sameness sometimes it is ok to be better or know more.

 

 

Simple questions from a new "Personal Integrity" blog

  • When was a time that you betrayed your own integrity by engaging in deception? What happened? What would you do differently now?

  • How do you betray your integrity now? What does it get you? What does it cost you?

 

 

 

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